Freebase: Discussion about teeler

Vancouver: New views

2008-11-28T09:04:45.0012Z

I've just added Tunnels of Vancouver - enjoy

Hugh Laurie: Any House fans in the house?

2008-11-27T22:40:22.0012Z

I thought it was Lupus that was the first few season's diagnosis du jour...I don't watch this for the mystery, I enjoy the ruthlessness and unsparing honesty of some of the characters (I miss the Amber character) and situations in this show still.

Hugh Laurie: Any House fans in the house?

2008-11-26T22:27:46.0016Z

New meme.. I think not. It's always not been cancer. There is a cancer scare almost every episode.

As much as I love the show, it does become a little tedious at times when I can actually guess what the next possible cause will be. :/

Music: New album?

2008-11-26T10:33:32.0012Z

As soon the firts home recording demo version!

Music: New album?

2008-11-26T10:31:55.0017Z

We are working on our third album ... it will see the light in 2009? we hope so!

Victor Gamm: Where is he now

2008-11-24T22:10:10.0017Z

Victor Gamm engineered on Lord of the Ages for Tony Cox.

Magna Carta are trying to trace Victor about the possibility of recording their final album with Vic as angineer.

Does anyone know how to contact him??

Musical instrument: Why is "Musical performance role" an included type?

2008-11-24T00:00:27.0012Z

Pasting part of my response to your response:

I took "musical performance role" as an implication that the instrument is a musician is because "Musical instrument" doesn't make sense as the "Musical performance role" of "Musical group membership". For example, Jimbo Wallace is the bassist (general) or double bassist (specific) of the group Reverend Horton Heat. He is an instrumentalist who plays the double bass as part of the group. The current schema jumps over the role (profession/hobby) to link straight to the instrument but calls the instrument the role. That means that the role needs to be inferred from the instrument. As I'm drilling deeper into the reasoning for this modeling approach it's starting to make sense (e.g., specificity of double bass instrument is preferred over the generality of bassist role). However, it was not intuitive and 77 instances of "Bassist" as a musical performance role added by a handful of users and mw_template_bot is supporting evidence. Perhaps changing the name of "Musical performance role" would be all that is needed but the new name should imply an instrument/activity topic rather than a role/profession/hobby. Besides changing the name of "Musical performance role", it might be useful to add "Musician" as an incompatible type of whatever name "Musical performance role" is given. An "Instrumentalist" type that links the instrument to the profession might also be helpful for finding the professions currently linked as "Musical performance roles" and correcting the data given the current schema.

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An "Instrumentalist" type might also be useful as a converter when importing data that list contributions in terms of the person.

Musical instrument: Why is "Musical performance role" an included type?

2008-11-23T19:10:26.0012Z

Pasting my response from the data-modeling maling list:

The performance role (which could perhaps have a better name) is used for connecting musicians to groups or recordings.

John Bohnam ---drums--> Led Zeppelin
Robert Plant ---lead vocals--> Led Zeppelin

The thing in the middle of the arrow is a performance role. Performance roles can be musical instruments, vocal ranges, ensemble roles like orchestra, chorus, or string quintet, conducting, etc.

Suggestions for a better name for that role are welcome.

Is that clearer?

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I also see, however, that part of your issue was driven by the use of Bass guitar as a performance role rather than Bassist. The primary reason for this is that MusicBrainz has an ontology of musical instruments that it uses to model group membership roles and recording contributions. If we are to harvest that information (which we don’t currently do) then keeping that correlation is necessary. Without a connection between instrument and person-who-plays-instrument, we won’t be able to map Bass guitar contributions to Bassist; it is easier just to keep the instruments themselves as the roles.

Many abums list contributions in terms of the person—guitarist, drummer, etc.—but just as many others list the instruments themselves—guitar,drums, etc. We should try to be consistent, but given that many instruments don’t have performer-role equivalents, and vocal ranges are referred to identically (I have never heard of a sopranoist), it seems easier to keep the role on the instrument.

Musical instrument: Why is "Musical performance role" an included type?

2008-11-23T06:22:30.0018Z

Title says it all. A musician plays an instrument, s/he is not that instrument. Musical instrument could have a musical performance property that links to a person/group/role type but having "Musical performance role" as an included type of "Musical instrument" doesn't make sense. The people are performers, not the instrument.

Musical Performance Role: Musical performance role is bassist not bass guitar

2008-11-23T06:06:54.0019Z

All of the musical performance roles added to this topic should be moved to "Bassist". I have added Musical performance roles are not Musical instruments to Incompatible types. Other Musical instrument topics also have this issue (e.g., Guitar, Piano, Trumpet).

Bass guitar: Musical performance role is bassist not bass guitar

2008-11-23T06:06:54.0019Z

Vancouver: New views

2008-11-22T19:51:06.0012Z

Thanks evening!

Celebrity: CALVIN KLEIN

2008-11-22T02:25:36.0007Z

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drumer, percussionist: Merge, split, etc.

2008-11-21T20:04:58.0017Z

See the discussion on the other "drumer, percussionist" topic. Bottomline is that this is not a musical performance role, and the proper form for these two are: Drum, and Percussion, which we already have.

drumer, percussionist: Split, then merge with existing topics

2008-11-21T19:57:01.0017Z

For musical performance roles, we have a topic for Drummer, and (in fact, several) topics for Percussionist. This topic, "drumer, percussionist", should be split into two, then merged with existing.

Le nozze di Figaro (London Philharmonic Orchestra feat. conductor: Sir Georg Solti): Split

2008-11-21T02:22:43.0005Z

Ok, thank you.

Vancouver: New views

2008-11-20T15:45:13.0000Z

FYI, I added all the public library branches.

Virgin: Split

2008-11-17T06:41:53.0017Z

This topic is being confused with Virgin Records.